RE: [JDEV] artwork/UI

["Mansell, Brian" <bmansell@spu.edu>]

I don't know if any of you are familiar of Odigo, the new Israel-based
instant messenger client. But I think we all can learn mistakes/advantages
of its interface. It incorporates a lot of aspects of icq and vrealms. I
encourage you all to try out their beta version at www.odigo.com  ... 

brian e. mansell
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul L. McNeely [mailto:drderail@i.am]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:45 AM
To: jdev@jabber.org
Subject: Re: [JDEV] artwork/UI


well, the idea would be to have the 'default' skin, perhaps not allow the
ability to add more just yet or whatever then as it goes incorporate the
ability in, but with that you have the problme that somone might try to edit
the defaults. If you allowed skins from the get go you have the ability to
gear clients more to the skins ahead of time, Incorporating skins later
sometimes causes problems and version conflicts in skins when you update the
client. Winamp had this problem in a few versions. If you were able to have
the visual inteface to be dynamic and be based off the skinn file you can
have interfaces that look totally different from one another yet still have
the core code behind it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mansell, Brian <bmansell@spu.edu>
To: <jdev@jabber.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [JDEV] artwork/UI


I don't know if skins would be the best idea for an initial release.
Certainly it loses it's standard uniformity by doing skins in any alpha
releases.

brian e. mansell
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul L. McNeely [mailto:drderail@i.am]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:47 AM
To: jdev@jabber.org
Subject: Re: [JDEV] artwork/UI


Actually Skins would be the best choice, Actually I have some images I
create when I was toying around with the idea of a pager written in vb, I
still have the code and everything, I cold donate it to the effort.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Sean McCullough <banksean@yahoo.com>
To: <jdev@jabber.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:02 AM
Subject: [JDEV] artwork/UI


How would you feel about using a standard set of icons
for things like users, groups, IMs across all graphical clients?  I'm
not suggesting they be required, but it
would a) make implementing a new client easier and b)
give Jabber a stronger identity for the non-programmer users.  I know
it's a client UI implementation issue and therefore out of the scope of
the Jabber specs but
like I said, it would just be a set of icons that implementors are free
to use if they so desire.

I don't know if AIM/YAHOO/ICQ would get their undergarments in a knot
about Jabber clients ripping
icons from their clients, but I personally don't think
those UIs are worth ripping off.  The Jabber team could come up with
better ones.

Another related issue is a logo.  Gnome = foot, Linux = penguin, BSD =
devil, Apache = feather - It's not just an issue for commercial
products to address.  What would a "Jabber Now" link button look like?
ICQ's has that flower on it.  I think the other buddy lists have them
too.

Sorry if the marketing questions make you ill.  Now I need to go write
some code, repent for my sins.

-Sean McCullough
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