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RE: [JDEV] artwork/UI



You're right... I thought of it on the basis of having 40k/ a piece jpgs
being transfered.. of course that would be unrealistic. Yeah, certainly the
smaller image size would work. Also it can be used to implement a <yikes!>
banner advertising system... (SORRY I HAD TO MENTION IT!)


heh... 

brian e. mansell
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas D. Charron [mailto:tcharron@my-deja.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 12:59 PM
To: jdev@jabber.org
Subject: RE: [JDEV] artwork/UI


  Not really..  For example, this is an XPM of an open book:

my @book_open_xpm = (
"16 16 4 1",
"       c None s None",
".      c black",
"X      c #808080",
"o      c white",
"                ",
"  ..            ",
" .Xo.    ...    ",
" .Xoo. ..oo.    ",
" .Xooo.Xooo...  ",
" .Xooo.oooo.X.  ",
" .Xooo.Xooo.X.  ",
" .Xooo.oooo.X.  ",
" .Xooo.Xooo.X.  ",
" .Xooo.oooo.X.  ",
"  .Xoo.Xoo..X.  ",
"   .Xo.o..ooX.  ",
"    .X..XXXXX.  ",
"    ..X.......  ",
"     ..         ",
"                ");

  You'd only need like 5 icons max, and they would only be downloaded as
requested (Aka, NOT ever time, only when needed, once per client, really).
Icons are not more then 256 bytes, really, so 5 = little more then 1k, it
would take ALL 2000 client requesting all 5 icons to saturate a T1 line for
a second and a half.. ;-P  Normal usage, lesse 100 users simo login and
request, leading to 200k in bandwidth for a moment..

  Anyway, I digress..  The point I'm making is it would NOT be as bad as you
would think..  ;-P
---
Thomas Charron

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:19:04   Mansell, Brian wrote:
>I think it may create a bog on the bandwidth by keeping icons on the
server.
>With every 'client update' that will slow it down quite a bit... especially
>if jabber ends up becoming highly popular (2000+ simultaneous connections).
>
>brian e. mansell
>CIS Help Desk -  Seattle Pacific University
>E-Mail - bmansell@spu.edu
>HomePage - http://www.spu.edu/~bmansell/
>Office  |206| 281-2982 Personal Fax |603|452-7014 
>Seattle, Washington 98119 USA, Earth
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Thomas D. Charron [mailto:tcharron@my-deja.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:41 AM
>To: jdev@jabber.org
>Subject: Re: [JDEV] artwork/UI
>
>
>  I DO like the Logo statement, but I think we need to have a working
system
>that can be used for a minumal depoyment before a logo..
>
>  I would also support the idea of a way to store icons on server, and
allow
>them to be transfered between clients..  Aka, when I'm in a browser client,
>I have the SAME icons, but that capability is a bit of a ways away..
>---
>Thomas Charron
>
>On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:02:44   Sean McCullough wrote:
>>How would you feel about using a standard set of icons
>>for things like users, groups, IMs across all graphical clients?  I'm
>>not suggesting they be required, but it
>>would a) make implementing a new client easier and b)
>>give Jabber a stronger identity for the non-programmer users.  I know
>>it's a client UI implementation issue and therefore out of the scope of
>>the Jabber specs but
>>like I said, it would just be a set of icons that implementors are free
>>to use if they so desire.
>>
>>I don't know if AIM/YAHOO/ICQ would get their undergarments in a knot
>>about Jabber clients ripping
>>icons from their clients, but I personally don't think
>>those UIs are worth ripping off.  The Jabber team could come up with
>>better ones.
>>
>>Another related issue is a logo.  Gnome = foot, Linux = penguin, BSD =
>>devil, Apache = feather - It's not just an issue for commercial
>>products to address.  What would a "Jabber Now" link button look like? 
>>ICQ's has that flower on it.  I think the other buddy lists have them
>>too.
>>
>>Sorry if the marketing questions make you ill.  Now I need to go write
>>some code, repent for my sins.
>>
>>-Sean McCullough
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